Mustang Sallys Land Rover Pages

   Back to Previous Level ]
[Back to Navigation Page]


Choosing the right Holden motor

HoldenRoverII.jpg (23059 bytes)GMHbadge.gif (7657 bytes)
Discreet General Motors-Holden badge on back.                              The GMH Lion                        

  • Some are better than others as Land Rover powerplants. Here are some tables (below) to help you identify a "red" motor and tell you which model it comes from. They invariably had the cylinder capacity cast into the block on the forward left hand side.The engine number is stamped on a boss on the forward right hand side.
  • Holden tended to offer a pair of sixes in each model, a small one for commercials and base models and a larger one for the more upmarket models. They usually came in low and high compression versions.
  • There was often a high performance version for the Larry Leadfoots. Some of the performance engines were very powerful indeed. I haven't covered the multi-carbed and lumpy-cammed 202's found in the much lighter Toranas, some of which put out up to 190bhp. If you want to build a replica for your Land Rover you are on your own.
  • The table has engine number prefix codes which tell you approximately when the engine was made. The state of tune of a motor thirty years later is anyones guess. When rebuilding, don't assume that the cam now fitted is original or suited to Land Rover power needs. If in doubt, seek advice from an after market cam manufacturer.
  • If you have plenty of money, balancing and blueprinting of a Holden motor is beneficial to smoothness and long life. However I would counsel against any drastic performance mods. Your gearbox won't like firecracker power characteristics and you are aiming for a torquey understressed motor just like the ones fitted to Joe Averages 1970's Kingswood with the three speed column change gearbox.
  • My personal choice would be a 1966-1970 186 cu.in. motor. The 202 motor which came after was basically a 186 with the stroke lengthened from 3" to 3 1/4" and an increase in main bearing journal diameter. A stroke increase really requires a new block with increased deck height but Holden got around the problem by moving the piston pin 1/8" closer to the piston crown. This introduced a weakness in the piston in the vicinity of the lower oil-ring groove. The top of a 202 piston has been known to break off if the engine is chronically overheated. That is why I pay careful attention to the cooling and ignition timing of the 202 motor I have now.
MODEL Introduced
mm/yy
Finished
mm/yy
Engine prefix Capacity
CuIn (cc)
Power
bhp (kw)@rpm
Torque
ft.lbs.(Nm)@rpm
Compression
EH 8/63 2/65 Y 149 (2450) 95(71)@4400 135(183)@2000 7.7
Model life 18 months H 149 100(75)@4400 145(187)@2000 8.8
M 179 (2950) 115(86)@4000 175(237)@1600 8.8
HD 2/65 4/66 149E 149 (2450) 95(71)@4400 135(183)@2000 7.7
Model life 14 months 149D 149 100(75)@4400 145(187)@2000 8.8
179F 179 (2950) 115(86)@4000 175(237)@1600 8.8
HD with optional 179X2 twin carb motor 179X 179 140(104)@4600 178(241)@2400 8.8
This first pair of sixes are a little small. Better to choose a larger, later engine

[back to the top]

MODEL Introduced
mm/yy
Finished
mm/yy
Engine prefix Capacity
CuIn (cc)
Power
bhp(kw)@rpm
Torque
ft.lbs.(Nm)@rpm
Compression
HR 4/66 1/68 161W 161(2638) 108(81)@4400 146(198)@2000 8.2
Model life 21 months 161R 161 114(85)@4400 157(213)@2000 9.2
186A 186 126(94)@4200 181(245)@1600 9.2
HR with optional 186X2 twin carb,
later 2bbl.
186X2 186 145(108)@4600 184(249)@2200 9.2
HK 2/68 5/69 161L 161(2638) 108(81)@4400 146(198)@2000 8.2
Model life 15 months 161H 161 114(85)@4400 157(213)@2000 9.2
186P 186(3048) 126(94)@4200 181(245)@1600 9.2
HK with optional 186S 2bbl.carb 186S 186 145(108)@4600 184(249)@2200 9.2
HT 5/69 7/70 161L 161(2638) 108(81)@4400 146(198)@2000 8.2
Model life 14 months 161H 161 114(85)@4400 157(213)@2000 9.2
186H 186(3048) 130(97)@4400 181(245)@2000 9.2
HT with optional 186S 2bbl.carb 186S 186 145(108)@4600 184(249)@2200 9.2
HG 7/70 7/71 161L 161(2638) 108(81)@4400 146(198)@2000 8.2
Model life 12 months 161H 161 114(85)@4400 157(213)@2000 9.2
186H 186(3048) 130(97)@4400 181(245)@2000 9.2
HG with optional 186S 2bbl.carb 186S 186 145(108)@4600 184(249)@2200 9.2
New range of motors fitted to HG commercials which carried on after 7/71 while passenger cars took on the new HQ body style GE 173(2850) 112(84)@4400 160(217)@2000 8.3
GD 173 118(88)@4400 168(228)@2000 9.4
GM 202(3300) 129(96)@4400 190(258)@2000 7.8
GL 202 135(101)@4400 194(263)@2000 9.4
In these four models we have the classic 186, arguably the best Holden Six ever. It does not have the problems which can beset the larger 202 and is probably the one to look out for.

[back to the top]

MODEL Introduced
mm/yy
Finished
mm/yy
Engine prefix Capacity
CuIn (cc)
Power
bhp(kw)@rpm
Torque
ft.lbs.(Nm)@rpm
Compression
HQ 7/71 10/74 QE 173(2850) 112(84)@4400 160(217)@2000 8.3
Model life 39 months QD 173 118(88)@4400 168(228)@2000 9.4
QM 202(3300) 129(96)@4400 190(258)@2000 7.8
QL 202 135(101)@4400 194(263)@2000 9.4
HJ 10/74 7/76 QE 173(2850) 112(84)@4400 160(217)@2000 8.3
Model life 21 months QD 173 118(88)@4400 168(228)@2000 9.4
      QM 202(3300) 129(96)@4400 190(258)@2000 7.8
      QL 202 135(101)@4400 194(263)@2000 9.4
The HQ was a very significant model for Holden. In the lead up to release, the company announced that frequent model changes were at an end and the new body shape would be with us for at least eight years with only minor face-lifts.The new body brought with it coil suspension all around, the rear beam axle being located by a four-link setup.Over the five years of HQ/HJ the new pair of motors had adequate power levels. Then in July 1976 the Federal Governments ADR27A engine emissions regulations came into force. Holden complied by detuning and hanging anti emission equipment on the engines rather than doing a basic redesign.This had a bad effect on the driveability, smoothness and fuel economy of the new model HX introduced in 7/76

[back to the top]

MODEL Introduced
mm/yy
Finished
mm/yy
Engine prefix Capacity
CuIn (cc)
Power
bhp(kw)@rpm
Torque
ft.lbs.(Nm)@rpm
Compression
HX 7/76 10/77 QL 3300 Auto 118(88)@4000 185(251)@2100 9.4
Model life 15 months QL 3300 Man. 109(81)@3900 185(251)@1400 9.4
HZ 10/77 9/78 QL 3300 Auto 118(88)@4000 185(251)@2100 9.4

Model life 11 months

QL 3300 Man. 109(81)@3900 185(251)@1400 9.4
9/78 to 4/80 HZ commercials continued while passenger range took on the new Commodore shape ZL 3300 Auto 118(88)@4000 185(251)@2100 9.4
ZL 3300 Man. 109(81)@3900 185(251)@1400 9.4
The 173 was temporarily dropped leaving the 202, now officially called the 3.3 litre to carry on in a detuned, gutless form. These were the last models to have a three speed column-change manual gearbox option.

[back to the top]

MODEL Introduced
mm/yy
Finished
mm/yy
Engine prefix Capacity
CC(CuIn)
Power
bhp(kw)@rpm
Torque
ft.lbs.(Nm)@rpm
Compression
VB 10/78 3/80 VD 2850 Man. 86(64)@4000 146(198)@2200 9.2
The new Commodore
Model life 18 months

The VB had the last of the red painted motors.

VD 2850 Auto 91(68)@4000   9.2
VM 3300 Man. 76(57)@3600   7.5
VM 3300 Auto 83(62)@3800   7.5
VL 3300 Man. 88(66)@3600 157(213)@2000 9.2
VL 3300 Auto 95(71)@3800 164(221)@2100 9.2
The basic block continued in the next VC model but painted blue and fitted with a brand-new 12 port head, a 2bbl Rochester carb, electronic ignition, improved Starfire con-rods and a fully counterweighted crank.
VC 3/80 9/81 VD 2850 101(76)@4400 141(192)@2800 9.0
Model life 18 months VM 3300 105(79)@4000 170(231)@2400 7.6
VL 3300 111(83)@4000 170(231)@2400 9.0
Notice how the VB Commodore 3300 is not allowed to rev, and is well down on horsepower. The upgraded"Blue" motor is an improvement due to improved breathing. The VK Commodore which came out in March 1984 had optional Bosch Jet-tronic EFI on a block now painted black with much better performance. The descendants of the red motor finally finished production in 1986.

[back to the top]

PE01799A.gif (1627 bytes) Back to Previous Level ]

E-mail me with any comments, kind words, abuse or corrections.

Legal stuff: These pages have no connection with Land Rover, BMW or any of their authorised agents. The information presented herein comes from my personal experience and I guarantee the veracity of none of it. Visitors should exercise their own judgement and seek expert advice about local vehicle laws before applying any of my practices to their own vehicles. The fearsome copyright notices seen on some web-pages probably aren't worth the bytes wasted on them. If you want to rip off any of my stuff for non-profit purposes please let me know and give me credit.